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Us 10, Fbi 10, United States 7, Benghazi 5, Cia 4, Barbara Starr 4, David Petraeus 3, Sandy 3, John Mccain 3, Obama 3, Geico 3, Benjamin Netanyahu 3, New York 3, Staten Island 3, America 3, Egypt 3, Nyse Euronext 2, Ansar Al Sharia 2, Realtime 2, Mr. Rogers 2,
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  CNN    Erin Burnett Out Front    News/Business.  
   Erin Burnett.  (2012)  

    November 15, 2012
    11:00 - 12:00am PST  

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president obama got a of the attack on the consulate in libya shown to lawmakers. a congressman who saw the video "outfront." and new developments in the petraeus sex scandal. attorney general eric holder explains why he didn't tell the president about the affair.
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does it add up? and a democratic leerd offers a solution to the fiscal cliff. so far, even the president may not be going for it. let's go "outfront." good evening, everyone. "outfront" tonight, developing story. petraeus corrects the record. there are new details coming in about the former cia director's highly anticipated testimony tomorrow on capitol hill. cnn has learned david petraeus will acknowledge he knew almost immediately after the attack that it was the work of al sharia, a militia group linked to al-qaeda. this is a significant dwom. it was five days after the benghazi incident when susan rice went on the sunday talk shows an said the attack grew out of a spontaneous demonstration against an antimuslim video. let's get right to the breaking report right now. barbara starr is at the pentagon. you've been breaking this. tell us what you're learning tonight about david petraeus' testimony on benghazi.
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>> i've spoken to a source close to petraeus, directly familiar with petraeus' thinking on this matter. petraeus, we are told, wants to go to the hill, set the record straight and tell everything he knows. he will start by saying indeed that he knew almost immediately after that it was ansar al sharia, but there was also confusion. he had about 20 intelligence reports linking the attacks to that video, that anti-islamic video. those reports were disproven, but not until after he had briefed capitol hill. all of this took some time to sort out. that's what he wants to lay out tomorrow. >> and barbara, if he knew, and i know you're saying there were conflicting reports, which we have heard before, but if he knew and he's going to say he knew almost immediately it was the work of an al quaid linked militia, can he explain why susan right went on five talk
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shows and was very clear? >> the way it's going to lay out is pretase will talk about the fact he had cia intelligence community approved talking points about what they believed, laying out some of the confusion, the different fact, but what they believed. as far as he knows we are told, susan rice may have gotten some information from some other part of the administration from other talking points. he's going stick to what he knew. >> barbara starr, thank you. pretty incredible reporting there from barbara starr tonight. this comes on the same day that members of congress watched videos of the attack on the u.s. consulate. one of those videos showed chris stevens being dragged out of the building. the briefing today was the most comprehensive account yet and it also included a details timeline of how the attack unfolded. now, there was also and this is
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obviously very important, that closed circuit video from the consulate. accord tog one senator who watched that video, it's clear it was not a demonstration that spontaneously turned into an attack, which as we have said, that's what the administration officials said in the days following the incident and david petraeus will testify tomorrow, raising more questions about how the administration handling the situation. senator dan coates of indiana is on the intelligence committee. he saw the video. he'll be at the hearing tomorrow. he's "outfront." senator coates, really appreciate you're talk taking the time. what did you learn from the video? >> we learned a lot. we saw things in realtime. it was a composite video. i did not see evidence previous to the attack that took place. a lot of hard questions were asked. more questions that needed to be
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asked. we're going to be meeting with general petraeus tomorrow morning and that will give us another insight directly from someone in charge of the situation. >> i don't know if you just heard what barbara starr was reporting, but in addition to saying that david petraeus was aware in the immediate aftermath this could have been linked to ansar al sharia, he also is perhaps it seems unclear on what talking points susan rice had. someone else in the administration, someone must have given her some of those talking points. they didn't seem to match those from cia. does that worry you? >> we spent an extensive amount of time. i asked a lot of questions, as did others in that regard. answer questions that have to be -- in the end, we want to provide a factual and realtime report of what happened and obviously, people need to take responsibility on what we come to, but i don't want to get ahead of the game here. i think we will learn more as we
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go forward with petraeus and then with hearings following that. >> before the hearing today, i just want to quote you back to yourself, but here it goes. you said this administration has been far too candid about successful operations like the raid on osama bin laden. but has been far too quiet on the tragic attack on benghazi. why do you think that was so? >> well, you know, it took eight weeks for us to start to get the information we started to get and that was only by subpoena, but bringing the actors into the intelligence committee for briefings. there's a lot of delay, speculation, that this had something to do with the election. i don't think it's good to have this speculation, so let's get the real answers, we're going to have a public hearing and issue
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a report so that the american people get what they deserve to hear. >> i want to ask you something about john mccain. i don't know if you're aware of this, but he along with several other republicans did not attend the hearing today, but he's blood pressure vocal on this issue. a cnn producer skz him, by the way, instead of coming, he was holding a press conference calling for a separate investigation into benghazi, so a cnn producer asked why he didn't go to the hearing and here's what he said -- >> not going to comment on how i spend my time. >> is john mccain being too political? >> well, look, first of all, that was yesterday. and yesterday was a closed session of the intelligence committee. today was the hearing and today was where the director of national intelligence, the head of the counterintelligence agency, the cia, fbi, state department, they were there and
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john mccain was at that hearing. >> so you feel any criticism of him is unfair. people have been picking on him for this, sounds like you're depending him. >> john said he had a scheduling conflict and i'll take him at his word. >> you were a former ambassador yourself. rand paul was on the show last night and he felt that the person in charge of embassy security at the stapt department must be fired in regards to what happened in benghazi. do you agree? you've been an ambassador, you've dealt with this on the ground. >> i have and i think we have to look at what the state department's response has been in terms of more security. i think drawing a conclusion right now is getting ahead of the curve. we have got more to learn, but we're going to ask all the tough questions. we're going to get the real answers and then make the recommendations as to how to go forward because we don't want this to happen again. >> thanks so much.
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and still "outfront", attorney general eric holder explains why he knew about the petraeus sex scandal and decided not to tell president obama. and an escalating conflict in the middle east. could there be war? israel launching dozens of air strikes. benjamin netanyahu's former chief of staff "outfront" and the president so far has drawn a very hard line on fiscal cliff talks, but tonight, another democratic leader has a plan that might be more palatable to more people. "outfront," next. every time. [ both ] 2% back on groceries. [ all ] 3% on gas! no hoops to jump through. i earn more cash back on the things i buy most. [ woman in pet store ] it's as easy as... [ all ] one! -two. -[ all ] three! [ male announcer ] the bankamericard cash rewards credit card. apply online or at a bank of america near you.
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a hybrid that c-max also bests in mpg. say hi to the all-new 47 combined mpg c-max hybrid. our second story "outfront," war in washington. both sides blaming the other for a lack of action on that fiscal cliff. when taxes duoup and spending gets slashed. today, the rhetoric was ratcheted up another notch as mitch mcconnell slammed the president's plan. >> an opening bid of $1.6 trillion in new taxes just isn't serious. it's more than simpson bowles or
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more than any other commission has called for. it's twice as much as the white house seemed ready to agree to during last summer's debt ceiling talks. a joke. >> dick durbin joins me now. good to see you. it's a joke. what do you think? >>. >> i think senator mcconnell needs to take another look at the report. i severed on that commission. a reduction of $4 trillion came from revenue. it was in the range of $1.6 trillion. >> you talk about 1.6 trillion. there's ways to get there in ways that don't necessarily raise tax rates. you could cap deductions at $35,000 and have the estate tax
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go back to where it was and get $1.3 million. i'm simply making the point there's a loft ways to get there that don't involve raising tax rates. is that a compromise you'd ever consider? >> you're right, but i think what the president's trying to say is is let's protect working families. those making less than $250,000 a year. no tax increase for them. those making over that amount should pay more in taxes and i think if they've been blessed with success in this great nation, it's not too high a price to ask. we believe this needs to be part of it. it isn't the only part, but an important part is that we have revenue from those who can afford to pay. we can do it either through the rates or deductions in the code and you've given a good illustration. >> the president has been clear saying the tax rates have to go up for the we thi in addition to anything else we do, but seems like you're saying look, i'd be open to something that didn't necessarily include that. >> here's what i'm saying.
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i want to make sure this revenue is part of deficit reduction. the taxes revenue should come from the people who can afford to pay more. there are various ways you can approach it. through the rates, the deductions, but as long as you're not taxes middle income worker families, i think it should be part of the solution. >> all right. sounds like you made your point very clear and frankly, one that i don't know. it seems is very practical. a lot of people could work with that, sir, but let me ask you this, we talk about people being practical, some rather impact cal things being said. we just heard mr. mcconnell. paul krugman wrote "the new york times," don't do a deal, mr. president. that will hurt the republicans more. his word was crazy. do you think people are going to do this? that this is a strategy? go off the cliff and just see what happens and i'll get more than that i thought before? >> i respect mr. krugman, but
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there are two things we should say. if we want to head off the cliff, taxes will go up not just on the rich, but on every american paying for income tax, including work k families. that's not a good result. if we go off the cliff, it will push us back to a recession. let's find a way to avoid those two outcomes. >> and we talked about the revenue side, which is important, but i know this is a dicey way of saying it, might be 40, 60%, but you get what i'm saying. cuts have to be made to entitlement programs. are we going to be able to get that done in time? >> i think we can. now, we've already cut $1.1 trillion in spending in the last two years and that should be part of our total. i think we've got to make some enhit mment reforms which will not threaten the integrity of medicare, but will have real savings. we're just spending much more
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than we should. we've got to demand quality, but we can't be overcharged in the process. >> i spoke with the coo of honeywell yesterday. he, i asked if he agreed with that bowles told me on tuesday. he felt this was a magic moment. here's what david cody had to say. >> there's a real recognition now of the magnitude of our debt problem. two years ago, people weren't really talking about it and the commission really brought that to the floor and that combined with this fiscal cliff is generating a very different conversation than it did say two years ago. >> do you think the conversation is different now than two years ago? >> definitely. david sat next to me in the commission. erin, you know from your time around washington that most of these commissions generate reports nobody ever sees. that particular commission was different and david and i voted for the final product bipartisan vote on it and i think it really
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called attention the fact we can successfully deal with our deficit in a balanced way with everything on the table and we're sensitive to the fact we're in economic recovery right now. we don't want to stall that recovery. let's do it thoughtfully. we can git doyne and i adpree with david and erskine bowles. this is the way to do it. >> thank you very much. this is moment to do it. we hope this happens so much. durbin's comment that he would discuss raising revenue on the wealthy without raising rates is significant. there are many ways to cut this cookie. "outfront" still to come, two weeks after sandy devastated the northeast, president obama visits staten island, a borough will residents say the federal government has not done enough and american workers could be on the brink of losing two of their vacation days. the vacation day fiscal cliff, coming up. from investing for the first time...
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our third story "outfront," still suffering from sandy. today, president obama saw firsthand the ongoing misery in part of new york city that included a stop on staten island where two and a half weeks after sandy, some residents say they're still relying on the goodness of strangers because
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there hasn't been enough help from government. deb fayerick is on the story. >> reporter: visitinging the storm avenuaged staten island, president obama named sean donovan to coordinate massive rebuilding efforts. >> he's going to be working with the mayor, the governor, the borough presidents, the county officials to make sure we come up with a strong, effective plan. to many here, that is a stinging oversight. >> without them, i mean, no money, no government agency has shown up here to do anything to help us, so these people from the goodness of their heart have come here to help me. >> reporter: after flood waters destroyed nearly everything he owned, he said these strangers from oklahoma gave him strength to take the first step. >> they take out the damaged stuff and allow, if i'm going to, to restore. >> reporter: the federal, state and local government response has been unprecedented given the scope and magnitude of the storm.
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>> we pumped out over $190 million into the bank account of people that were impacted so they could use that for rental assistance or to repair their homes. >> reporter: still, trs a disconnect and many people say they have yet to see any of the help they need. >> in the beginning, people didn't know what to do. they didn't know how to do you contact fema? the red cross? what can we expect from them and because of that, right away, it was just neighbor helping neighbor. >> reporter: pastor tim mcintyre in staten island and like many places of worship, the church became a weigh station r for goods, information and volunteers willing to roll up their sleeves. >> we've all got family, kids and paid our own way down here to come be a part. epr: and folks here feel volunteers were able to better organize than any official help. serving hot food before the flood waters had receded.
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if you ask people who's helping, who is is it? the official people? >> no, it's the every day people that are coming out. but it's not the government. let me tell you. >> there are six fema disaster recovery centers on staten island, yet driving around, people say it's volunteer groups having the biggest impact. >> when it's all said and done, we're going to continue to care for this community. >> so, we saw, too, the it's local, local, local and not the government, but yet when the government is stepping in now to step it up, they seem to be cutting out local groups. >> that is the huge challenge. the government is helping on this level. right now, people need help on this level, so they're happy they're seeing checks coming in, but you know, when you talk about rebuild, talk about information, when you talk about resource, it's the community groups that really, really know where the great need is. that's why the volunteers flock
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there. yet this this whole emergency response, they're not even part of the equation. it's great to have somebody focus on the rebuilding, but there needs to be somebody in charge of coordinating the volunteers or maybe not. really taking action and you saw that. >> welsh if you were to take them away, there wouldn't with be the basic needs met. >> people would be crushed. more crushed than they are now. >> thank you very much. and "outfront" next, new developments in the fbi's investigation of the petraeus sex scandal. attorney general eric holder's explanation of why he didn't tell the president. and a woman refused an abortion. it cost herera life. people have doubts about taking aspirin for pain.
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welcome back to the second half of "outfront." we start the second half with stories we care about where we focus on our reporting from the front lines. bp will be paying the largest criminal fine in american history stemming from the deepwater horizon disaster in the gulf of mexico back in 2010. the penalties total $4.5 billion. the oil giant will also plead guilty to 14 criminal charnls. two employees have been charged
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with manslaughter, so here it is in total. bp tells us it has spent $36 billion in clean-up costs and settlements and even after today, they're not in the clear. civil claims are not settled and analysts say bp's penalty could be bigger than the one the company agreed to pay today. the food and drug administration is investigating 13 deaths that may be linked to 5-hour energy. the fda says it has received 92 patient reports. these are being reported as adverse events. they are required by law to be investigated though. the distributor tells cnn consumers shouldn't drink more than two bottles of 5-hour energy a day and even then, spaced hours apart. maybe just avoid all those things all together. that's just me. the 21-year-old foreign exchange student accused of trying to blow up new york's federal reserve bank was indicted today on two charngs using a weapon of mass
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destruction and trying to provide material support to al-qaeda. he was arrested in october when authorities say he tried to detonate what he thought was a,000 pound bomb using a cell phone as a trigger, but it was part of a sting operation and the feds say he was inspired by al-qaeda and say he came to the united states with the purpose of conducting a terrorist attack. the french president is urging mali's interim president to step up talks with rebel leaders. they took over the northern part of mali this year and now say they want to talk. there's progress elsewhere in the negotiations. there's a report that a regional mediator will be meeting with a militia and touring rebelses together for the first time torl tomorrow. it's been 469 days since the u.s. lost its top credit rating. we still need nor recovery in the housing market. today, freddy mac said rates
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fell to a new record low. low rates are not the problem. and now, our fourth story. new developments in the petraeus scandal investigation. we have just learned that chuck grassley, the ranking member of the senate judiciary committee, has september a letter to attorney general eric holder and robert mueller pressing for details about the role of their departments in the investigation. among his questions, why wasn't the president informed of the investigation, which began in the summer, before last week? today, attorney general eric holder defended his action. >> we felt very secure in the knowledge that a national security threat did not exist that warranted the sharing of that information with the white house or with the hill. but when we got to a point in the investigation, it was very late in the investigation, after
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a very critical interview occurred on the friday before, we made that disclosure when we got to that point to share the information, we did so. >> but did they do so soon enough? lewis gutierrez joins us now, the intelligence committee and republican representative jason chaffitz. let me just start with you, representative gutierrez. are you satisfied with attorney general holder's explanation as to why he did not tell the president earlier about the petraeus affair? >> look, they have a responsibility if they find a national security threat to inform two members of the senate and house. on the intelligence committees. they did so when they finished their investigation. this is the fbi and let me just be clear. this is really not a partisan issue. given the fbi director mueller
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is been very well established to have worked with republican administrations in the past. number one. number two, we're talking about professionalism of the fbi. professional men and women who risk their lives every day to keep us safe and according to the attorney general, and i have no information that would contradict this, they gave the information at the appropriate moment in the investigation. look, the fbi is not supposed to disclose information nueva leone unless they believe there's a national security threat. i have no reason to believe they didn't do it until the appropriate moment. >> representative, do you agree with that? especially given that it was om this week that the fbi went to mrs. broadwell's home, boks of mag, some of which is classifieded? >> no, i would totally disagree. general petraeus was the head of the cia. he wasn't running the fish and wildlife department.
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there is a duty under the law to inform the ranking and chairman of house and senate intelligence. that is to deal with every investigation. and with national security be compromised? perhaps it would. i think that should go to the level of the president. it should have definitely gone to those four people who were charged with that, the chairman an ranking member of the house and intelligence committees and the other thing that will be interesting is as a cia officer, you are supposed to report anything that has to do with quote, bonds of affection and that is again something we would know quickly and early in the information, but i want the president of the united states to make these decisions. president obama should have had that information and to with hold it from him is wrong. >> just to follow up on this point about the fbi searching paula broadwell's home this week, how could the fbi have
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known? how could eric holder have known there was no problem, no national security threat when they hadn't looked through that information? >> as he said, the fbi and justice department informed the appropriate official. i would just like to say the following. look, one of the things that we do have on the intelligence committee on which i'm a member is that we have a great working relationship between trats an republicans. and so, i'm going to with hold any further opinion and comment on this as to whether or not they were informed appropriately until mr. rogers and the ranking rb ranking democrat on the intelligence committee tell me otherwise. i've never heard my leader on the intelligence committee or mr. rogers as of yet make those kinds of opinions, but i'm going with hold judgment because they're the people that have been have been informed. >> what do you have to say to that?
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is it too early to pass judgment, to be critical? >> i think this is one of the big questions. i think what i m prepared to say now, i want to president of the united states to know the moment somebody of such national security importance, the cia director, that there's something worth investigating, i want the president to know that. to withhold that information, the president can't keep a secret? of course he can. he needs to know that he's the commander in chief. he's the one that makes those kinds of decisions. to protect the president or do anything like that would just be fundamentally wrong. >> and i understand my friend's concern, but look, congressman and the committee, chairman rogers, i think you should have them on your program and ask them whether or not they were informed in a appropriate and timely fashion because neither congressman chaffetz nor i were in order.
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so i'm going with hold judgment, but let's be clear. these are career fbi agents, men and women, with stellar careers up to this point, that are doing their duty and carrying it out, so it's really not about eric holder and remember, they have to be informed when there is a specific instance that a national security threat exists. they can't be calling up the president and everybody else every time there's a complaint or some issue to follow up with on secretary petraeus or whoever is running the cia. >> but my understanding of that is they're supposed to be informed when there's an investigation and i think certainly if you look at the public comments, senator feinstein, who is in a position, is in that role, she has publicly complained about this, so that's why i think it's more than justifiable to say why aren't they informed, it's just a coincidence that happened a
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couple of days after the election. >> and you know what? maybe i just put a little more stock and credibility in the men and women at the fbi and those in law enforcement that i believe are here to uphold the law and that are career professionals. they're not republicans or democrats. they're americans and they felt that they were fulfilling their responsibility and did inform at the appropriate moment when they felt they needed to. >> it's the attorney general. >> attorney general is different. >> attorney general has the duty. >> i understand he has a duty, wu let's be clear. my friend, let's be clear. we have nobody in the fbi complaining except somebody who went to a republican leader to say i'm unhappy with the state. >> you have senator feinstein publicly saying that this was a concern. that's why i think it's legitimate. >> it does bother me. >> doesn't it bother you that the president didn't know?
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>> can i tell you something? i can not obviously comment on an ongoing investigation. maybe you can, i can't. but from all of the information that i've gathered that is unclassified and that i've been able to look at, i've got to tell you, i don't have a problem with the sequence of events and when people were inforled. >> i got a problem with it. >> and there are a lot of questions still to be determined. thanks to both of you and still to come, israel's retaliation against terrorists could cause a war and a hospital refuses an abortion. the woman died. but not from germany. ♪ a powerful, fuel-efficient engine, but it's not from japan. ♪ it's a car like no other...
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>> dancing with a friend. her family, now mourning her loss. the 31-year-old died in an irish hospital, refused an abortion that could have saved her life. as reported by the irish times, she was admitted to ireland's galway university hospital, sunday, 21st october, suffering back pain. she was 17 weeks pregnant. was miscarrying and told she'd likely lose her baby. seven days later, she was dead. she had pleaded her doctor for a termination, but for two and a half days while her fetus had a heart beat, they refused. this demo gathering not just to remember sevita, but stop a repeat of her tragic death. her husband is back in india, all coming to terms with the
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loss of a wife, a daughter, of a first grandchild. a death everyone here hopes won't be in vain, that will lead to a change in the irish abortion law. >> so horrible. the hospital will not comment on the details of the case, but they did send us a written statement saying they followed the usual procedures in cases of sudden maternal death. our fifth story, israel at a tipping point. there are new pictures coming out of gaza tonight. this is what's happening. israel is continuing its assault, targeting 300 hamas targets since the military operation began yesterday. it all started with an air strike that called ahmed
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al-ja'abari. israel says the barrage of rockets is in retaliation to the 750 rockets fired from gaza into the state this year alone and there is collateral damage. egypt's new government is denouncing israel's actions and causing renewed tension between the two countries. that treaty on which so much rests upon. "outfront" tonight, former chief of staff to benjamin netanyahu and senior fellow of middle eastern studies -- let me start with you and where you're standing tonight, egypt and jordan both condemning israel. your two allies in the region. they're saying your prime minister netanyahu has overplayed his hand and probably is undermining his security. what do you say to that? >> there's a wrong side and a right side. the wrong side is the side that shoots thousands of missiles on civilians. what israel is doing now is the right thing. weaver defending ourselves. that's the right thing to do.
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>> is neftali right? there's a wrong side and a right side? >> it's not as simple as that. it's not as black and white as that, unfortunately. on the other side, there are also people who are dying. 20 people have died today. dozens more injured and i suspect overnight, we will see more deaths, so the carnage on both sides doesn't help anybody. >> with what we've seen that is so disturbing, what is next? is there the peace talks somehow out of this, hard to imagine, start again? >> you know, when someone is determined to eliminate you, when they're own charter says they have to pipe out the jewish state, when they shoot thousands of missiles from an area that was vacated, no more jews living in gaza. instead, they turned it into a lawn launch pad of thousands of missiles, there's nothing to talk about. we owe it to ourselves and to the western world. with terror, you don't talk.
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there's no dialogue. >> i'm sorry, and you don't owe it to the western world. you're putting the western world at greater risk. >> you know, if new jersey was being bombarded by missiles coming from a foreign state, the united states of america would retaliate, would stop that right away. how do you deal with that, egypt and jordan both condemning israel, your two allies in the region. they're saying, your prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, overplayed his hand and is possibly undermining israeli security. what do you say to that? >> there's a wrong and right side. the wrong side is the side that shoots thousands of missiles on civilians. more jews living in gaza, it was supposed to become the singapore of the middle east, but instead, they turned it into a launch pad of thousands of missiles, there's nothing to talk about. we have to defend ourselves. we owe it to ourselves and we
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owe it to the western world. with terror, you don't talk. there's no dialogue. you're putting the western world at greater risk. >> you know, if new jersey was being bombarded by missiles coming from a foreign state, the united states of america would retaliate, would stop that right away. we've taken missiles for the past eight years coming out of the gaza strip. we vacated the gaza strip. there's not one jew living there, yet instead of turning it into a haven of peace, they've turned it into a launch pad of terror. >> going to battle, going to war every five to six years does not help israel's cause, nor does it help the west. you are fueling anti-americanism in the region and you are bringing security risks to your own citizens and to your own state. for how much longer will you continue to repeat the failed methods since 1948? this has been the repeated stance of the israelis to go to war and to fight. the only way out of this is to realize that the palestinians were once in complete rejection and denial of the state of israel, to where they are now, prepared to accept 67 borders. that's a huge advance. bank that, work on it, build trust, take the west with you rather than constantly holding the west hostage to your domestic political calculations. >> that's simply false. that's nonsense. we vacated land every time we vacated a piece ofand, handed it over to the palestinians, what we got in return was a mass wave of terror. we have to learn the lesson. just as the united states or president obama would not imagine to negotiate with -- >> that's a false comparison. that's a false comparison. >> that's exactly the situation. you know, where you're sitting right now, the land of israel is not occupied. the land of israel belongs to the jewish state. >> say that to the palestinians. >> that's not the point. >> the palestinians have their
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own land and instead of using it for a peaceful entity of their own, they're using it to shoot -- >> that's not fair. >> we want peace. believe me, i want peace more than anyone. i have no desire to go out and fight and risk myself and have my kids become orphans. that's not something we want to do. but faced with a very determined radical islamic enemy that wants to wipe us out, i'll be very clear. we're going to stand strong. we're not going to give in to any radical islamists that want to kill us. we will fight as much as necessary to protect the jewish state. >> but that kind of grandstanding, pompous statement, black and white claptrap doesn't necessarily ensure the long term safety of the state of israel which is something we're all interested in. the only way you achieve that is by waging a battle of hearts and minds on the people of gaza and bring on board the majority of the people -- >> is that what the united states --
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>> you don't get anywhere. we did not bring peace in northern ireland by citing the charter of the sinn fein. you do that by chartering initiatives on the ground and reaching out by third parties. you have an ideal opportunity to rescue the agreement on the deathbed. i'm afraid israelis will be returning to the psychological terror they imposed on tel aviv and gaza and elsewhere. the failed policies of the last 60 years of constant warfare every five and ten years cannot be the way forward. you must revise your strategy going forward and end this bombarding of people inside gaza tonight and beyond. >> i was in new york on september 11th. i don't recall that on september 12th, the united states engaged in dialogue with al qaeda. with terrorists who are determined to wipe out the
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jewish state, you have to stand strong. >> this has been going on since 1948. >> it's exactly the same. it's exactly the same. >> no, it's not. >> israel is at the forefront of a huge wave of radical islam that's sweeping the entire middle east. i can tell you that i have four kids, i have no desire for them to go to war. i want to protect them. i hope that one day, the palestinians will get some sense and will stop shooting missiles at my own children. but until that time comes, we are going to be here to protect ourselves. >> let us know what you think about that conversation on our blog. next, a new study released today shows americans are working harder than they have to. we've got extra vacation days. you could be about to lose a try running four. fortunately we've got ink. it gives us 5x the rewards on our internet, phone charges and cable, plus at office supply stores. rewards we put right back into our business. this is the only thing we've ever wanted to do and ink helps us do it.
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you could be about to lose a couple of your vacation days. so according to a new study, while the average american gets 12 vacation days a year, usually most of you only end up taking ten of them so every year for two days you're working for free. now, of course, it could be worse. according to the same study workers in asian countries use even less of their allotted days. people, think about this. in south korea, people don't use three of their days but in japan, workers only take five of their 13. okay? five. are you -- oh, my gosh. maybe asians and americans should take a page out of
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europe's book because as this study shows, at least for now, europeans really know how to holiday. british, swedish and norwegian workers all get and take 25 days. even the germans take 28 of 30. of course, there's, well, france and spain. ah, france and spain. you know, you french, you take 30 out of 30 but you know what, that 30 is a lie. it doesn't even count 11 public holidays. the french get 41 days off a year. 41 days. stop for a second. 41 days. hm. italy is the exception in europe. like the japanese, they waste eight vacation days a year so what's wrong with all of us? for all the complaining about how hard we work, why are we throwing our days away? which brings me to tonight's number, 14. that's the number of days "outfront" producer bob hand is set to lose this day. nobody works harder and takes fewer vacation days than him but what are you doing? you are heading towards a vacation day fiscal cliff.

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